From Ethiopia to Africa: Building a Digital Healthcare Platform for over 500,000 Patients with Beamlak Alemayehu

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[00:00:30] [SPEAKER_02] The strategy for the market is to become the leading digital healthcare platform in Africa.

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_00] Stay tuned as we bring you inspiring people who are unlocking Africa's economic potential. You're listening to the Unlocking Africa Podcast with your host, Terser Adamu.

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_01] Welcome to another episode of the Unlocking Africa Podcast, where we explore the ideas, innovations and strategies that are unlocking Africa's economic potential. For millions of people across Africa, accessing healthcare is not simply a matter of finding a doctor. The journey can involve long waiting times, unreliable information, medicine shortages, fragmented services and payment systems that place formal healthcare beyond the reach of many households.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_01] In Ethiopia, Medanit Digital Health is attempting to simplify that journey. Through its medical application, website and low bandwidth call centre, the company connects patients with doctors, medication and mental health services through a single integrated healthcare platform. Its founder, Beamlak Alemayehu, is a clinical nurse and social worker whose first-hand experience of the barriers within the healthcare system

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_01] inspired her to build a more accessible and inclusive alternative. She is also one of the 2026 recipients of the Bayer Foundation Women Entrepreneurs Award, which supports women-led businesses developing solutions in health and food security. Beamlak, welcome, welcome, welcome to the Unlocking Africa Podcast. How are you?

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_02] I'm good, Terser. Thank you so much for having me.

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_01] It's a pleasure to have you on the podcast. As always, I like to start from the beginning. So I was hoping you can give us an introduction into who Beamlak Alemayehu is.

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_02] Okay. Thank you for having me again. As you've mentioned it, I am the founder and CEO of Medanit. Medanit in Amaric means medicine in our local language. I study nursing, clinical nursing, as well as social work on my bachelor's degree. I'm pursuing my master's on MBA in innovation and change management.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_02] And I've been working in a public hospital at the early age of my career. And I got the chance to see the gaps in our healthcare system, the fragmented system, as well as the things that are causing our patients' lives, which are beyond the skills of our physicians and also the infrastructure. So it gave me a closer perspective.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_02] And my experience in the medical tourism gave me an eye-opening opportunity in other countries like India, Turkey and Dubai to see how technology is helping the other world advance their care system and structure their care provision as well. So that's what enabled me to establish Medanit.

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_01] Fantastic. And as we mentioned, you are a trained clinical nurse and social worker before becoming an entrepreneur. So what is it that you saw within Ethiopia's healthcare system that convinced you the problem required a business solution such as Medanit?

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_02] One of the main issues are actually, let me start, what Medanit solves and so that we can have a full image of it. So the problems that motivated me to establish Medanit are access for medication. So whenever a doctor or we prescribe a medication for our patients, they have to go around the city for days and hours to find those medications. This problem is not about a delay.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_02] It gets worse because as you know it in healthcare and medical care, every minute and every second counts, especially for critical and emergency care. And the other one was the long waiting hours to find the doctor here. The average waiting hours to find the care Medanit is up to 2.5, up to 5 hours.

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_02] So patients have to go from hospital to hospital, from clinic to clinic, and they just have to wait for hours to visit a doctor or to find a care at that facility. And the other one was the investigation comes along in it as well. So the other one was whenever someone wants a care or a consultation with a doctor, they have to go to a hospital or a clinic or a facility.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_02] This comes very, very difficult for the community that lives in the rural area because data shows 60% of our population still has to go 10 out to 20 kilometers to find a healthcare facility. So these three major issues motivated me. And it was not just market research thing or you don't need to have a business or any kind of perspective.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_02] I used to live it every day and I used to see patients suffering. I have seen patients, inpatients, especially going all around the city to find a simple investigation. I've seen patients losing their lives because of a delay in healthcare. I have seen people getting into complicated states because we couldn't find the right medication at the right time.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_02] So this was my daily practice while I was practicing nursing. So I was curious, at least there should be a way people should know that where they can find this care or we also have to bring the scares closer to you, especially for the medical consultation. The medication part was a needy part for me. So yes, every day for me was a question of frustration that puts in my head.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_02] But the eye opening chance for me was, as I have mentioned, I used to work in the medical tourism after I graduated in practice nursing for a while, for a little time. The job that I got into was a medical tourism. So when I go to India and the other countries, I have seen and I have asked how they solve this. And I have seen technology in a way that.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_02] So I came back home and I started asking to the community, to my friends, to doctors, to people that was into it. I was asking them how the things work because, you know, I'm a nurse and I don't know anything about coding. So I was asking around. And of course, since there was no such thing in there back then, everyone told me it's a good idea, but it's impossible.

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_02] But yeah, to answer your question, these were my turning points.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_01] Yeah. And the interesting thing is you're bringing consultation, medication, health support together within a single system. So why did you decide to build this integrated healthcare platform rather than focusing on one specific area?

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_02] That's a very interesting question, because as I see that from a professional perspective, healthcare is a team sport. You cannot just take a goalkeeper into a game and become a successful team or a striker, or a striker into a team. And then we win the game that you're into. So without the doctor, without the investigation or without the medication, we are making the system more fragmented.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_02] What makes a digital health platform more successful and accessible for anyone is an intra-apprecious and a multi-sectoral platform can assist and achieve a better care. So, of course, my main goal was to narrow down the gap in telehealth, telemedicine and medication delivery. But I have seen through these systems, we need also a help of doctors.

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_02] We need to put into investigation as well, because obviously after the consultation in the telemedicine, the doctor will suggest and recommend for some investigations, right? So where would these patients go? We still put them back to the street to find those investigations and put more frustration and delay into the care. The second one was, okay, now someone called us for a telemedicine again. We tell them they need to see an orthopedician.

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_02] So the second thing that they will ask us is where could I find that? And what time should I go? Where that orthopedician or practitioner will be working at? And after they go to the facility, still they have to wait for hours. So, of course, there are a lot of problems in our healthcare system. But when we did our research, the main one was these three things.

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_02] And unless we combined all this together and provide a solution for each of them all along together, we still will be part of the fragmented system, but not yet the solution. So we did them. Of course, it's very frustrating. It took us a lot of energy investment and a lot of strategy to build Medani where it is right now. But it's worth it.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_02] We have became a one-stop platform for digital health where patients can consult a doctor, book the specialist doctor and go to that facility, get their investigation and medication delivered to their home. So if they need anything related to their medication or their family health consultation on, they can just pick their phone and call us. So we've made it very simple and easier for anyone who wants healthcare.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_01] And I guess part of the simplicity is the access because it can be accessed through a mobile application, a website and low bandwidth call center. So why was that important to have these different options of accessibility?

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_02] That's also one of the things that we had to investigate on because, yes, digital infrastructure in our country is developing. Yes, there is a lot of penetration and digital skill as well. But our main focus still has to be the fragmented system in the mums, in the farmers that are left on the behind in all each system development. So we have done a research and we have seen the data of other platforms as well.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_02] One of the failure case and digital platforms in our country and I can say in all over Africa as well is inclusivity. So we try to be more inclusive to the because, as you know, with healthcare, it's not just for a targeted group, right? It's not just only for the younger generation or for the elite or for the rural area. You have to make it inclusive so that you can attain everyone who's in need.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_02] So we developed an app, a website, a telegram boot, as well as a call center. So the app and the website can be easily accessible. And then it's just to book a doctor or to deliver a medication. It's just three tabs. You upload your prescription and then order and pay and you wait for the doctor's call. You know, so the same goes to for the doctor's appointment in the investigation appointment as well.

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_02] But when it comes to the telegram boot idea, telegram in our country is a predominant social media or a communication route in here. So we have seen a lot of people requesting to send their prescription, to send their medication, to send their picture of their condition in our telegram through just a communication number.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_02] So we developed a telegram boot so that we can become, you know, can be convenient for those community. And the major thing that we've done and we are very proud to present is our telemedicine as well as our call center.

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_02] Because even though there is a, you know, bigger and huge amount of penetration of internet in our country, still the ruler community doesn't have a smartphone, doesn't know how to use, you know, how to download and use an app or a website or such thing. So they can find all this thing by just calling in our call center. And the other thing that we do in our call center is,

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_02] is one of the largest population countries in Africa. We have greater than 120 million population with different language, different tradition, different culture. So in healthcare language becomes one of the barriers to access. So what we have is we have team of doctors in our four major languages, which are Amhari, Afanuromot, Grimya in Somali.

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_02] So anyone can describe their condition without any language limitation and feel like home within our call center. So we have to be inclusive to expand our market reach into our goal for such reasons.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_01] And I guess this inclusivity has allowed Medinet to register more than 50,000 users. You've delivered over 58,000 medications and facilitated more than 78,000 consultations. So what have those users taught you about what patients actually value from digital health?

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_02] They value the accessibility because, you know, finding a doctor in our country, as I have mentioned is, you have to travel far away from your home to find a care and wait for hours. Now we just made it, you know, a call away. Let me give you for an instant, our leading calls are generated from moms.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_02] Because speaking as a mother myself, whenever your child or you go through some change or some kind of conditions, you know, you have the urgency and the need of contacting someone immediately. And that was taken far away from our community. So we have made that easier for everyone. Whenever they need an advice from a medical personnel, whenever they need a guidance,

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_02] whenever they want health information, whenever they need to book a doctor, we've made it an all stop solution. So accessibility is one of the things that we've brought. The other thing that I've mentioned, one of the role players in our success is interoperability. So MediAid is an open source platform that easily can be integrated to any platform.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_02] So that made it very easier for our partners, for the banks and the payment aggregators to work with us. And the other thing is the confidentiality. So the team of doctors that we provide, one of the barriers into telemedicine and adoptability is the confidentiality in the trust issue. We've made and built a system that's very highly secured,

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_02] that made our patients confident enough not only to use it, but also to recommend it to their family and friends. So once someone calls us for something, we know for sure that they will contact us back because we've built it. We've built MediAids on a patient centric method. So we take surveys every now and then we've made sure that our customer service is at its best.

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_02] And we've made sure that our partners follow the customer requests that we also have from our clients. So we kind of created a trend that the patient always has to come first. So I think this thing through our work is very feasible to our clients that they have built the trust to users.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_01] Thank you for sharing that. So I guess making healthcare more accessible is only part of the challenge for many households. The important question is whether they can afford this. So what type of person or, you know, what would you say the customer profile is for the type of person who pays for MediAids service?

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_02] We've classified and segmented each of our products in service for the user or the customer base. So when we go to the medication delivery and the doctor's appointment booking, the middle and the higher income generators seem to use it more frequently. We have seen and analyzed that.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_02] And when it comes to the lower income generators, our telemedicine provides much cheaper access than the clinics nearby to their town or their neighborhood. Because it's just six cents per minute, which is less than 30 cents of dollar. I mean, 30 cents. So, yeah, we are very, very affordable in our telemedicine.

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_02] And we are also trying to work on the way that we can also subsidize that for, you know, to make it even more cheaper for the rural area. So according to our market segment, yes, of course, everyone used our telemedicine whenever they wanted to.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_02] But people, when it comes to cost efficiency, they try to check whether they can solve their problem in our telemedicine first before they reach to a nearby health care center to minimize their costs right now. So the other thing that we do to make our products and services more affordable is we negotiate and work our partners to give us a discount to subsidize some of their services in our platforms.

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_02] And the other new thing that we started doing this one past one once is directly with working with product producers and product importers.

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_02] Now we have around five companies that works on baby formula, baby milk formula importation, skincare products importation, production, baby diaper and sanitary pad production, supplement importation for supplement importation. And we are becoming a direct distributor for this products. And we are making it very, very cheap for the community.

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_02] And the reason that we've done is, as you can understand in most of the world, such products are a bit pricey. So we wanted to make this thing very affordable to the community by working as a direct distributor with the importers and producers.

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_01] Interesting. So you mentioned affordability and also negotiating prices with suppliers or service providers. You also work with health care payment options and insurance. So how does this enable you to, I guess, make health care more accessible and affordable for your patients?

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_02] Yes. Yes. I can start with the accessibility. Nowadays, everyone use a digital payment to pay for everything. So now we are working with four banks and two, currently actually three payment aggregators or fintech companies to make the payment for each of our services cheaper.

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_02] Not only cheaper, but also pretty much very accessible because nowadays, everyone is using those platforms to pay for their daily needs. We don't need an extra money. We don't make it a need for our customers to go out of their way to use our platform.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_02] So we simply integrate our system with search platforms and anyone can pay not only from a local payment for, we also accept an international payment for, you know, the family that lives abroad so that they can pay for the families that they're trying to support in here. So we've made that very accessible.

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_02] I can say at this point, 90% of our payments or all our payments regarding to the booking, the medication delivery and the investigation booking comes with a digital payment. So, yes, we've made everything accessible. We've tried to make everything accessible.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_02] When it comes to the affordability, as beyond, as I mentioned, that we are working closely with the producers and importers, the medical insurance coverage in our country is currently very limited, but mainly dominated by government medical insurance, which only covers for the public facility care.

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_02] Now we are working with the banks so that they can provide a subsidized or a loan kind of a credit kind of way for our clients so that it can be, you know, affordable for our users, especially when they need a bigger amount of purchase for their medication. So we've started that conversation with two banks and we are working, it's going very well right now.

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_02] We, they are trying to make it, uh, into the National Bank of Ethiopia. Once we got our approval, anyone can get a credit system to use our services in our platform now.

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_01] Okay. So we've talked about accessibility of services and accessibility of finance and payment options. So if we look at accessibility of medication, I know you've described medicine shortages as one of the barriers that can cost lives. So if we look specifically at Ethiopia, where does Ethiopia's medication supply chain most frequently fail or break down?

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_02] Oh, I think we were having a coincident meeting with the government and other, uh, medication providers like buyer in the past two, three months. The major thing is a data-driven decision-making. The one of the things that they're still held enables you is to show you what's missing in the market.

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_02] A lot of importers and producers in our country just bring what they can bring and what they can afford, but that's not the issue on the ground. We have seen most, as we partner with a lot of pharmacies in our city, in our country. We have the data set of what's available in our country, but we also can see a lot of gap in that area because there's no data-driven strategy.

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_02] So as Medanit can do, we have just from January till last week, 1.2 million events in our website and app, which are people who are looking for medication, which are people who are looking for doctors. And medication takes a majority of that number. So this number shows you what's accessible in the market and what these people are not getting in the market.

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_02] So we are trying to convert that data for the government and for the other medication, um, providers, importers to use it to fulfill the market need. Because still there are a lot of medication. I can say around 40% of our medication hasn't been, uh, I can say 60, not 40, but 60% of our medication need hasn't been met.

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_02] Because for critical conditions, doctors has to replace or combine some medication because the, you know, the original medication couldn't be accessible. And there are some medications that people have to bring in an illegal way because it's not accessible in the right or regular market.

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_02] So yes, I think using, uh, a data-driven policy and data-driven, uh, market structure or market strategy will definitely solve that problem.

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_01] So you mentioned, uh, data-driven decision-making is the challenge. So as Medinit grows, could the data generated through searches, prescriptions and deliveries actually help predict medicine demand and reduce shortages within Ethiopia?

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_02] Yes, definitely. That's one of the strategies that we are working and driving for 2027 to work directly with medication, uh, producers and pharmaceutical companies like Bayer, Boingham, Johnson & Johnson, which are pretty much dominant in our country, but doesn't have the data set or tool that can show them and direct them what's going on in the market.

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_02] So yes, we are working and structuring our product and platforms into not only benefiting the patients by providing what's available in the market, but also enabling these pharmaceutical companies to bring what's missing in the market so that we can fulfill the market need.

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_01] I guess with this Medinit has already demonstrated demand within Ethiopia, but your ambition is to reach 500,000 users across Africa. So what needs to change inside Medinit to grow from more than 50,000 registered users to your target of 500,000 across Africa?

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_02] Um, yes, we've been working for the past almost three years to make Medinit an efficient and easily accessible platform, not only for Ethiopia, because I've got the chance to meet and work with a lot of Africans. As Africans, we share the same problems when it comes to such issues. So I've got the chance to work, to have a conversation from people from Nigeria, uh, Zambia, Zanzibar, Kenya, Rwanda, Algeria, and Egypt.

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_02] We've shared the same problems in our country with a different, uh, way. One of the funny and good thing about technology is it can be easily customized into the market's need, into the market's gap, culture, and structure. So we have started our market research in Zambia, in Rwanda right now.

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_02] And hopefully we will join Zambia's market by 2027 and Rwanda along as well. But our strategy for the market is to become the leading digital healthcare platform in Africa.

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_01] Fantastic. But we know that healthcare systems, regulations, languages, and also patient behavior differ significantly across the continents from country to country. So how much of Medinit's model do you think can be replicated and how much would need to be rebuilt for each new market?

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_02] I can say 60% of our model can be replicated in any market impact. But there is place also a major role, as you've mentioned, the patient's character, the tradition, the culture, the language, and the structure, as well as the regulation as well. And as I've mentioned, technology will be definitely our major enabler to customize the major part of Medinit into that market segment.

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_02] You know, we can work with local doctors, local partners, local hospitals, and the local government to digitalize a system based on the market segment and also the structure of the market. So, yes, there is part and there are a lot of changes. And there are a lot of things that also can still be used in other countries of Africa.

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_01] So as you look at regional expansion, what would you think would be one or some of the biggest challenges or constraints that you might encounter trying to expand into new markets? Would it be capital, regulation, technology, infrastructure, partnerships?

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah, I think all are going to be a challenge for us. And already we are also encountering some. But if we put it in priority, capital will play the major role in it. Because as you know, it's not only to expand to just sustain what we have in Ethiopia, which takes a lot of investment in capital. But when you enter another market, you need to do a lot of preparation and also investment to enter that market in compete with the local products.

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_02] So capital is the leading limitation that we are facing. And we are still really opening and looking for investment chance in regard to that area. And the second one is the regulation. As we have discussed, regulation is also very different in each African countries and plays a major role in implementing such platforms.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_02] So yes, regulation will be the second and also the major limitation that we see coming. And the third one is partnership. So in order for us to work in a local facility in another country into expanding to another market, we need to become partners with the existing healthcare providers. So that needs also another partnership.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_02] And we have to build the trust from that partners for them to use and utilize what we have. So I think the three major things that we can mention in order to expand and make anything to region, regional areas could be this one.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_01] Fantastic. And the reason we're here is that you have been selected as one of the 2026 Baya Foundation Women Entrepreneurs Award winners. And the award brings capital, mentorship, investor support and also access to international networks. With that in mind, what value would you say the recognition has provided so far? And what are you looking forward to in the future?

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_02] It has brought a lot of things because when we applied for the competition, one of our main goals is not only to get an international exposure and visibility, but also have the linkage to work with buyer pharmaceuticals because it's one of the leading pharmaceutical companies in the world. So we wanted to become a partner to enhance our market capacity and also change the fragmented healthcare system that we have.

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_02] And the second one is, of course, we want to be the leading digital healthcare platform in Africa. So we want to work and we want to get exposure, the mentorship and the investment from international investors, international mentors, as well as the coaching from other sectors and also from other fellow personal health innovators. So this, we are the main things that we were looking forward.

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_02] And yes, they are working very well for us. We've got the chance to have a couple of conversations with the buyer pharmaceuticals. We've got the chance to get a lot of mentorship, a lot of coachings in order to scale my needs, in order to get a more and larger perspective of what we are capable of reaching. So, of course, there is also the funding that we will be using to enhance our capacity and also in our market expansion as well.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_02] So these are the three major things that we have gotten and we are also getting out of this award.

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_01] Fantastic. Thank you for sharing that. We know that women-founded companies receive a small amount of global venture capital. So from your experience, are investors overlooking commercially attractive businesses because they are founded by women? Or is it also because from your experience, they are being built in markets such as Ethiopia as well?

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_02] I think both are the reasons. Yes, I have got the chance to observe from other fellow women entrepreneurs that we women get to be undersized from investors' perspectives and also venture capitalists.

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_02] And the other one is, of course, Ethiopia has a very highly regulated investment ground in our country, which restricts a lot of international investors to have the chance to invest in such products like Medanit. When it comes to the women, you know, exposure to investment, I think what Bayer Foundation has done for us will give a lot of investors the perspective that, yes, women can do it.

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_02] And, yes, there are a lot of women that are doing this massive innovation change and market segment change in their country. Not also not in their country, but also have a plan in working into expanding to Africa as well.

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_02] When it comes to the Ethiopian local regulation, yes, the government is seeing this as the source of Ethiopian startups and Ethiopian enterprises, not to scale as international level and also to gain more investment from the outer or the international investment in VC capitalists. So they are working on, you know, making it more open, making it more flexible for that.

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_02] So we are very hopeful for the future and also very grateful for what Bayer Foundation has proven for the world.

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_01] Quote of the week. Your journey has taken you from working directly with patients as a clinical nurse to you build a company that aims to transform how healthcare is accessed across Africa. And as people, we often have quotes, mantras, proverbs that keep us going when times are challenging or when times are good. Do you have one that has stayed with you throughout this journey?

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_02] Um, yes. It's remembering where I started from. Always keeps me going and keeps me optimistic about the future. Because when I started Medanit, it was just me and one developer. I was everything for the company. Now we are bigger than 20 people. And we've reached thousands and thousands of lives every day. We are not just a digital innovation, but we are saving people's lives every day.

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_02] So remember where you come from or where you start from is one of my daily motivation that keeps me disciplined and also makes me very optimistic.

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_01] Fantastic. A fitting way to close today's conversation. Beamlak, that has been an enjoyable conversation. And I think for me, it's clear that Africa's healthcare access challenge cannot be reduced to the number of doctors, hospitals or clinics available.

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_01] A healthcare system only works when patients can find reliable information and reach the appropriate professional and obtain the medication they need and afford the entire journey. So thank you for having this conversation and joining us today. It has been an absolute pleasure having you on the podcast.

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_02] Thank you so much for having me and giving us the chance to speak about our story. And thank you for supporting Madanity.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_01] Fantastic. And we will speak soon.

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_02] Thank you. Have a good day.

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